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  Thursday, 09 February 2023
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Dear Sir,

I need your recommendation on a new car – SUV or Hatchback, with high ground clearance of 180 mm and above. My monthly running is around 700 km per month, mostly in City (Kolkata), though I do need Highway runs occasionally (Ratio 80% - City, 20% Highway). I need a performance-oriented family car with seating of 4-5 persons. I prefer Petrol or Diesel, not EV or CNG. Reasonably good mileage (Above 15 kmpl) and good after-sales support, with okay resale value. WB Registration.

Earlier I used to drive Ford Fusion 1.4 TDCI and now, I currently drive an Alto K10 VXi AMT(O) and I would prefer an Automatic transmission. I have a parking constraint and prefer a sub-4-meter vehicle. I can wait for 4-5 months or longer (high waiting period is okay). I am 5’7” tall.

The following features are Preferred: Auto Climate Control, high seating position / height adjustable driver seat, Cruise Control, rear AC vents, rear wiper, rear defogger, Same size spare tyre. I am not very keen (neutral) on sun-roof.

My budget is up to around 15 Lakhs on-road. I have narrowed my choices to Brezza Automatic ZXi or XUV 300 Petrol AMT W8(O). Should I wait for Jimny (5-door) / Thar (5-door RWD) / Fronx or is there any other better alternative that I should consider / wait for. I can wait for 6 to 8 months.
7 months ago
Dear Indraneel,

Hi. Greetings !!
Basis factors shared of
> Average Height of 5'7, Space need
> Performance oriented car - which can get in Turbo Petrol
> Automatic Car need and having design of sub 4 meter
> After Sales Support
> Mileage need too where you seek 15+ Mileage

Here are some Pointers
1. See Petrol SUV leaving aside Brezza, Magnite, Kiger would all deliver in mileage of 11 to 12 kmpl as reasonable expectation within city use. Somehow higher Kerb Weight, Wider Tyres, Raised ground clearance would be deterrant.
For Brezza, Magnite, Kiger too - having a reasonable expectation of 13 to 14 kmpl is fair in city
However mileage can be relative better on highway

Now if you look for fuel efficient Petrol SUV like Brezza, Magnite, Kiger then although performance is acceptable in city but
> in no way they are fun to drive
> Steering feedback are mediocre in Brezza, Magnite on higher speed
> Renault after sales service support scores low

So if you consider in Petrol SUV then you may have to compromise with mileage part.

2. But if you seek Mileage, Fun part too then you have 3 choices as
a) Mahindra XUV300 W8 Option Diesel AMT - priced at Rs 13.92 Lakh
b) Kia Sonet HTX Diesel Automatic - priced at Rs 12.55 Lakh
c) Tata Nexon XZA Plus AMT - priced at Rs 12.49 Lakh

Now of the 3 - will rate XUV300 AMT a better pick over Nexon due to 2 facts
> Better calibrated AMT in Diesel with lesser jerk
> More Fun and more comfort oriented

Now Some key differences in Sonet Diesel Auto and XUV300 AMT Diesel
XUV300 Pros
> Relative more spacious in seat
> More comfort oriented suspension set up for city use
> More safer - 6 Airbags as against 4 in Sonet HTX, also best in class build quality

Sonet Pros
> More smoother Automatic Transmission
> Relative bigger boot space
> Feels more upmarket in Styling, Interiors and Exteriors

Biggest Con of XUV300
> Very average interiors, looks outdated
> Smaller Boot Space

Biggest con of Sonet
> Build Quality is questionable
> Rear Seat legroom space is mediocre

So have to make a choice
rest all features are very much there and can meet in requirement need of Fun, Performance

For other Cars
Jimny (5-door) / Thar (5-door RWD) / Fronx
Jimny drives yet to begin but do note that 4x4 Wheel SUV wont be as fun on city and will carry much higher turning radius
Thar 5 Door too wont have as plush drive as expected in City
Fronx 1.0 - Well can be a choice if ready to wait and although this Turbo petrol engine performance yet to be known, but still Fronx Zeta Automatic would be worth a wait if not having immediate need

May check out above car
Feel free to connect for any followup queries if any.,
Based on your suggestions, I narrowed down my choices to Brezza and XUV 300 Diesel AMT w8(O). I took test drive of both the cars, but I did not like the driving comfort of Brezza. I also did test drive of Venue N8 DCT - which I liked from a driving dynamics perspective.

Both the quotations are attached. Please help with negotiation tips for both these options - Venue N8 and XUV 300 W8(O) AMT DSL BS6.

Being a private sector employee, with offices in more than 4 states, I may fulfill the BH series criteria - please suggest whether for Diesel vehicles whether BH series is a better option compared to normal series - considering cap of BH series at 15 years

Mahindra additionally is giving corporate discount of 4K - so on road quote is Rs. 14,37,514 for W8(O) DSL AT BS6


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6 months ago

Given quote of XUV300 is for BS6 Phase 1 car. Pls note that Mahindra also introduced in BS6 Phase 2 Cars with dispatches from plant too started off. Prices are higher to extent of rs 20K but BS6 phase 2 engines are optimised with
> improved cataytics
> OBD2
> Superior engine NVH
> End fuel efficiency in real world can be marginally better (arai numbers as of now however are same)

Given deal of Rs 26K is Mahindra official scheme. There are
> Exchange Bonus
> Corporate Discount
> dealer end offers which can prevail

Been BS6 ph2 would be an enhancement - i suggest to negotiate using tips mentioned in below vids to extract minimum 50K

on how to negotiate

Hyundai deal as referred is for BS6 Phase 2 latest emission norm and Venue N Line DCT Automatic has no discounts but Rs 5000 higher been charged in price list for BH Series, you can check on BH Series Calculation

Secondly - Insurance premium if bought online can save in near Rs 10K to 12k - pls check online quotes with
> Tata AIG by calling them
> or check with HDFC Ergo

Being a private sector employee, with offices in more than 4 states, I may fulfill the BH series criteria - please suggest whether for Diesel vehicles whether BH series is a better option compared to normal series - considering cap of BH series at 15 years

WB RTO is the only RTO which permit dual option in state level series
> 5 yr registration as one time
> 15 yr registration as life time

Here for lifetime tax payment is Rs 1.31 Lakh
While BH Series tax on XUV300 W8 Option AMT would be 21200 to be required to be paid for 7 yrs and then pro-rata payment of Rs 10,600 for 15th year making outflow of 1.5 Lakh.

Although considering interest outflow difference of upfront payment and pro-rata payment - both will be same
So from financial perspective - doesnt make difference whether opting for BH or State level series - but if in transferrable job then should consider in BH Series.

Hope should help !!
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