Thursday, 16 June 2022
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I’m planning to upgrade my existing car Baleno delta variant purchased in 2018

My requirements are I need to have a good boot space, decent performance, good cabin space, good mileage and good build quality.
I’m not satisfied with the safety of my existing car and steering handling at high speeds no confidence, we are family of 4 my budget is around 14-15.
My usage 70-80 kms per week and occasional road trips

Per my analysis below are the cars that i have shortlisted,
Honda city(5th gen or 4th) whichever is good
VW virtus
My family likes XL6 but i dont want to go for Maruthi again
S-cross - but low sales figures not sure why
Nexon- my family didn’t like it

Could you please suggest if i can go for base variant in Honda city 5thgen or Virtus

My first preference would be Sedan this time
But i would like to depend on your advice

Regards,
Vamsi
5 months ago
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Dear Vamsi,

Greetings !! Here are some pointers which will assist in terms of buying best for your need

1. XL6 is rebaged Ertiga to its core. Same build, same chassis platform and same structure
Ertiga scored poorly in crash test with 3 star rating, expect no different in S Cross too

2. S Cross future is bleak with all new Brezza (launching on 30th June) and a new Mid SUV set for launch by Festive season
Also there are media speculations too that Maruti can axe S cross by 2022 end - this all makes no reason to go for S Cross unless an exciting high discount offer been poured in. Secondly - lack of crash test rating has apprehensions on product safety aspect

3. Tata Nexon - well i will say is also important to take family need preferences in consideration

Net all it remains in between
> Skoda Slavia / VW Virtus
> Skoda Kushaq / VW Taigun
> Honda City 5th Gen (better product than 4th gen and initial niggles been resolved too)

Now as preference is towards Full Fledged Sedan - it remains as choice between Slavia, Virtus and City 5th Gen
Now keeping Slavia and Virtus in same category and City in another category - there are subtle differences in product

Honda city:- Choose if seek
a) Majority of drive in local city use or good well build roads. Seating comfort with soft suspension offer plush ride
b) Soft Suspension which is tuned towards comfort again. Clutch feels relative light against Virtus
c) Somehow the interiors of City feels more upmarket to view against Virtus/ Slavia
d) Ivtec engine feels more refined as against 3 Cylinder engine of Slavia / Virtus (refinement in terms of engine NVH Levels)
e) Rest this car now feels more reliable with all initial niggles been resolved (Virtus has set of issues related to Aircon been reported by owners in social media)

VW Virtus/ Skoda Slavia:- Choose if seek
a) Performance aspect as more fun in mid range
b) Suspension is on mature note, expect better high speed dynamics
c) Steering feedback is more impressive on higher speed. You will love high speed stability, ride, handling

Rest for safety aspect - kind note that VW known for offering immaculate build but in recent times did high localisation and somehow cant be sure on safety rating. On other hand Honda city scored 5 star in ASEAN NCAP with even super High formability 980 MPa grade steel - which is known as best. No such details available on VW Virtus

Overall - Honda CIty 5th Gen to our view would be a better choice for your need.
Hope should help !!
5 months ago
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Hi Sir,

Thanks a lot for your detailed review that really would help me a lot, initially I was about to book City looking at a few reviews stating build quality got compromised in this model I got worried. One more thing I observed is, when I did a test drive I was hearing artificial sound coming from outside, SM has told me it is not from the engine I believe that can be ignored right, does this model has any high-speed stability issues such as at speeds of 120

One more question is, in the base variant of City, they are offering 175/55/R15 tyres would that be sufficient for city and long rides or do you want me to upgrade the tyres to the ones they are offering in the VX and ZX variants which is 185/55/R16. The sales manager is insisting me to keep the original tyres as the cost of it would be depreciated as soon as I take the delivery and upgrade the tyres probably after a year or 2 unsure what I need to do.

Thanks in advance!
5 months ago
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Hi,

Pls find point wise repy to queries as raised

1. initially I was about to book City looking at a few reviews stating build quality got compromised in this model I got worried.
A. No - City 5th Gen is safest City version we have in Indian Market so far, If seek uncompromise safety try and choose City Vx or Zx

2. I was hearing artificial sound coming from outside
A. City has pretty silent cabin. Hope you test drove in Manual coz CVT has kind of Engine noise when accelerated fast been of rubber band effect
Insulation levels are good, engine is refined

3. 175/55/R15 tyres would that be sufficient for city and long rides or do you want me to upgrade the tyres to the ones they are offering in the VX and ZX variants which is 185/55/R16.
A. Hi this tyre size you referring is for 4th Gen. Well in 5th Gen its R15 185/60 in base variant while in top end is R16 185/55
Although these tyres are not to enthusiastic drive, but upsizing to R195 tyres will take a hit on fuel efficiency. If you are someone who do not corner cars and like straight speed drive with comfort and drive to speed of 100 or 110 (not beyond 120) - We dont recommend any upsize in 5th Gen V Model as is sufficient

Hope should help !!
5 months ago
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Hi Sir,

Thank you for providing the inputs, yes I drove the ZX CVT the SM has got their top variant maybe that could be the issue. Sure, I'll also ride the manual one.

1. I spoke to SM about the cost of Vx MT it is around 16.10L on road which is 1.84 lakh more than the base variant. Could you please let me know if it is worth spending that amount?

The difference in both variants is the Sunroof, 8 surrounded speakers,6 airbags, R 16 alloys, Digital cluster, and other minor interior stuff in the VX model. Excepting the airbags, others are just addons from my point of view. But would like to take your opinion on it.

Q2. And in the base variant if I opt-in for tyre and alloy upgrade to R16 will there be any errors/miscalculations in the meter readings?

Q3. The kerb weight of the car is 1107 probably for the base variant and it could be around 1160 approx for the top variant will this make any difference for base variants in terms of stability or build quality?

I may be asking a lot of questions sorry but this time I wanted to make sure I cover all the areas in my research and completely sure that I'm making the right decision. In the past, when i have gone for Baleno I don't have any knowledge nor I've done any research I regret that it is not a bad car either but in terms of Safety, Performance, and Suspension (I can easily know from how many potholes my car has crossed though it is on the stiffer side it is as if I don't have that thing set in my car)

Meanwhile, I have checked on the Kia Seltos mid variant unsure of the build quality, Engine, and after-sales service is not good is what I heard from my friends.
5 months ago
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Hi,

1. Vx is not value except added Airbags. But for someone who seek uncompromised safety yet with more styling with more stylish alloys, wider tyres, superior infotainment sound experience and some more styling bit - may consider

2. If you will upgrade alloys and tyres even at day 1 - will cost near around 25k to 30K on exchange of alloys and tyres
Been Stock Tyres in Vx or Zx too comes with width of R185 but with smaller sidewall aspect ratio of 55%. It doesnt do much good except aesthetic wise looks in Vx and Zx.

3. Thats due to increased features, sensors. Sunroof carries weight of glass,
Not to worry about build - it has same build

4. Kia although spruced up Seltos with added safety equipment but no change in Build
A facelift expected in early 2023 where we may witness improved build - but as of now build seems slight average as what the outcome of Global NCAP.

Hope should help !!
5 months ago
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Hi Team,

Thanks a lot for assisting me in choosing the right car. I have purchased a Honda city MT 5th gen V variant and will update my review about the drive and comfort in a few days. Initial observations car is too good and spacious, ride quality is awesome but will give my overall review.
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