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  1. Sumiit
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  3. Monday, August 23 2021
Hello Gagan Ji,

Hope you are doing fine! Firstly, thanks for your earlier response on my father's query and we have booked Sonet AT for him and expected delivery is Sep'21.

Today, I am reaching out to you for another reason and this time its the home minister :) my wife. She has driven Swift MT many years back, but from last few years she hasn't driven any car. She is now wanting to get into driver's shoes and pull the accelerator without having to worry about gear shifts and this is where I need your support.

We both (IT Professionals) first bought a Honda Amaze in 2017 Petrol and sold after 2 yrs due to its very stiff suspension and poor air conditioning and then switched to a Hyundai Creta 1.4 E plus MT in Feb'2109 and in both cases I have only single handedly driven them and just to give you a fair idea, we both used to travel to Gurgaon from Faridabad almost daily until Mar'20 (beginning of lockdown), however, given the weight and proportions of Creta, we are thinking to change it and bring an AT car that is easy to maneuver in the city (for her only) and I can take over on Highways. Honestly, for now the running will be very less, but if our offices may get opened in 2022 then we will be required to travel again on daily basis, thus, we are thinking to buy either a Diesel AT or get a used BS4 Petrol AT naturally aspirated car that can be converted into a CNG after market.

Her priorities are more towards comfort Plush ride, ease to drive in city and here are some shortlisted cars:

First priority: Sonet (new), test drive taken and really liked, but comfort is where we need to compromise, after all downgrading from Creta will have its cons.
Second priority: S-Scross (New), comfort is very much existing, space and plush ride, but dated interiors has put itself in the second spot.
Third priority: City(Used), suspension is stiff, but as you said in one of your videos with better tires, it is surely going to improve.

We are not considering Mahindra or Tata due to their lackluster after sales service. Please advise.

Regards
Sumiit Bhatia
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Hi Sumiit ji,

Any specific reason why Maruti Ciaz Automatic is not referred to it
> This car comes with comfort oriented suspension - will admire the comfort associated
> Quiet Spacious and pretty well stocked in Features List
> Ciaz scored 4 Star in ASEAN NCAP (although it was . Has ESP Safety to it too
> Although yes its 4 speed Automatic (and on papers look outdated) but for controlled speed is fair decent performance in real world drive condition
> Interiors feels more plush and upmarket with bright beige and black interiors with wooden strip
> For Highway drive has cruise control for add on comfort if going on expressways
> Been loaded with Hill Hold Assist - your better half wont find any discomfort while taking car on hills
> Despite of Size is pretty decent mileage - can expect in 13 KMpl in city condition and close to 17 to 18 Kmpl on highway which is near best basis size and segment the car is in

Yes, i do agree too that
> Steering dynamics not pretty well on higher speed, so best to do controlled speed drive
> Keep expectation clear that Ciaz is not a car for performance - is rather for comfort, space, relaxed drive and upmarket interiors

To view can be great pick, suggest to experience with a test drive
Hope should help !!


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Hello Gagan,

Planning to buy a car within the next couple of months. Budget is 16-17 lakhs with manual gearbox, preferably diesel. Can also go for petrol if fuel efficiency is good. Ride will be mostly on the city with occasional highway trips. Priorities are spacious second row seating to accommodate 3 average build people, great suspension to absorb bad city roads, decent ground clearance and smooth engine. Please suggest.
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Hello Gagan Ji,

Apologies for not being clear in my request then my wife is not comfortable with long proportionate cars, she finds it quite easy to drive a subcompact car.

Yes I am aware that both city and s-cross are well above 4 metre (that is the reason they are on priority 2 & 3), but Ciaz has a very huge trunk which may create a hindrance for her while driving on the road, be it in the city on the highway.

Kindly advice!
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Ok,

Well, i 100% agree on comfort level and mindset that small cars are ease to manoeuvre but first come first - its like a notion among most buyers that sedan cars or a car with 4.5 meter length can create a hindrance in park / turns

Although yes, difference looks like 500mm - but is a difference of mere 1.6 feet and couple of hands on - these sedan cars are pretty ease to drive. Infact width is relative lesser than most other compact SUV so no issues in parking too

Now coming to Small Cars under 4 Meter
From combination of
> Comfort
> Space
> Plush Ride
> Interiors

well - here are some picks

1. Honda Jazz Vx CVT or Zx CVT : A great choice from relaxed drive with lot of space, decent interiors, rich features, high on reliability and a car which can be a fair upgrade choice. But its a hatchback

If dont wish to go for h

2. Kia Sonet HTX DCT : Well yes suspension is slight on stiffened note and not as spacious as in Creta but Features, styling, drive, handling and high speed dynamics are pretty impressive

May experience one among two
Hope should help !!


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Hello Gagan Ji,

Although I am deviating but if I move out of the listed options, then, I see two cars...one typical hatchback Nios AT Petrol or Diesel and second Toyota Yaris (Yes I am aware this will vanish soon from the Indian market).

Please comment.
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Hi Sumiit ji,

Regret delay in replying as missed notification . My Bad :(

See, Hyundai Grand i10 Nios Automatic is an excellent choice where in
> Usage is primarily in city drive conditions
> AMT is quiet smooth in response
> Will admire in suspension and drive with comfort oriented ride
> Light Steering, Good all round visibility and super reliable car

But,
> Highway Dynamics are very average
> Steering do not inspire confidence on higher speed
> 2 Star Safety Rating is a big down point

But for anyone whos looking for strict city use will love in Nios AMT at best

Sorry not experienced Diesel AMT - so cant comment

Yaris - Great choice but production discontinued more than a month back
To call it value - Depends on the model variant getting and at what price, if you looking to finalize then hurry up as wont get model next month and do share the quote to let know if its in line

Hope should help !!
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Hello Gagan Ji,

Absolutely, no worries. I understand you have got a lot on your plate.

Coming to NIOS/ AURA, we took a test drive along with AMAZE P CVT that is costing 10.20 lacs on road FBD whereas the former are costing around 8.78 and 9.34 lacs respectively. We have already ruled out AMAZE CVT due to its lackluster engine and is pricier when compared with Hyundai cars.

Nonetheless, my wife likes NIOS/ AURA both and after taking the test drive, however, the only thing left before taking the final plunge, just wanted your final word of guidance, are they good enough with regards to 85% city driving, service cost, comfortable ride, good seating posture.

Regards
Sumiit Bhatia
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Hi

If indeed is what 85% of drive is within city then basis
> AMT unit Electric Actuator response
> Comfort Oriented Suspension
> Light Steering
> Good all round visibility
> Hyundai Reliability, after sales service experience

Be assured Nios AMT in Sportz or Asta Trim is great value pick
Can consider for a go ahead of same

Hope should help !!
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Hello Gagan Ji,

I hope you are doing fine! Finally the day is here to get the delivery of my NIOS SPORTZ that I booked. I am little apprehensive towards the 14'' Alloy and GoodYear/ MRF 165/70 R14 and need your expert opinion to replace it with Michellin/ Bridgestone R15 175/60. Please advise.

Also, cost wise the default alloys will be sold in the after market for around 15k to max and buying 15'' alloys from showroom are costing me Rs31k, please advise if getting 15'' alloys will be worth the effort.

Alternatively, I can replace default tires with Bridgestone R14 165/70 and alloys will remain the same. Is this a better and wise move or the aforementioned?

Regards
Sumiit Bhatia
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Sumit ji - Spending 31K on Alloys and then say another 10K to 12K for replacement of tyres with bridgestone in exchange of stock tyres is like too much for a car like Nios

Although yes replacing tyres with R15 175/60 means
> Wider Tyres aids for better grip
> Yes car will feel more stable on higher speed

But what will lose on as
> Sidewall getting smaller by close to 10% - will lose on Plush ride as in existing tyre
> Mileage will drop to extent of 1 Kmpl to 1.5 Kmpl
> Slight Stiffer steering on cornering (which is good for highway as existing steering is too light)

So it all depends on priorities -
> If having moderate to higher usage on highway or like high speed drive - then may go with upsize
> However, if maximum usage in city then do retain existing tyres

Another Option
If you want to retain existing alloys then may upsize to R14 185/65 but only go with this upsize if make up your mind for
> Superior Grip on higher speed as sole criteria
> Ready to compromise on Mileage aspect by upto 2 Kmpl drop
> Aware that Steering may turn slight more firm from existing setup
> Will drive slow on bad roads as probability of tyres scrape may happen

For more details pls refer this Tyre Calculator

Hope should help !!
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