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  1. Dalip Thawani
  2. Tyres & Alloy Wheels
  3. Tuesday, September 15 2020
Hello Sir,
This might be a weird question but important for me

I recently booked Tata nexon XZ plus model which comes with alloys and the features i want in a car. But in recent times, there are cases of alloys theft in my area so I'm planning to buy this model without alloys (as i don't want to use lug nuts or take risk ) . And i discussed this thing with dealer and they said they can buy back alloys and provide me the steel rims (all before deliver of new car) so my questions are-

1. At what price i should sell the alloys to the Tata dealer and what would the price of new steel rims?

2. As tires for alloys are R16 215 and steel rims are for R16 195 tires like in lower variants of Nexon . Will it create any problem in terms of mileage, durability and safety if i use 215 tires on 195 rims?

3. How much this replacement of alloys will going to effect the resale value in future ?

Sir, please note i do not want to comprise on features or go for after market that's why booked XZ plus model. So please answer the above questions and also suggest any better idea if anything can be done instead of replacing alloys.

Thanks and take care
Dalip Thawani
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Hello,

Although dynamic guidelines are better one

But Tata Motors do have IRVM Accessory in Nexon which although cost around Rs 15,000 but serve purpose
> Camera
> Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror

may consider same (attached pic)


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Greetings sir,

After all your recommendations, I've decided to go for XM model and was concerned about rear camera only so found one IRVM based camera mirror but in it guidelines are static not dynamic( like they don't move based on Steering movement but they are fixed)

Do you think is it a good idea to invest in that kind of IRVM camera with fixed guidelines?


And could you please also suggest best options available for rear camera in the market and do note I'm not planning for any touchscreen in my car?

Rest your valuable suggestions are always welcome.

Highest regards,
Dalip
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Hi, Except Rear Defogger - none of the features mentioned above are deal breaker
Defogger is useful in conditions when driven car in Cold Winter Night to let clear fog on rear windshield through inbuilt heated function
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Alright sir, will connect with the alloys dealers to get the thread size. Thanks!

Do you think below features can be deal breaker and how IMPORTANT they are in your opinion and is it worth spending 2 lakhs more for these one's by upgrading from Nexon XM to XZ Plus -

Automatic climate control
Rear defogger
Rear wiper
Steering control

Highest regards,
Dalip
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Hi, Thanks
But unfortunately such fine details about size of lug nuts wont be available with us. as the best way is to

> Check through Tata Showroom / Workshop - if they can provide on such lug nuts
or
> Once car deliverted Visit any reputed after-market accessories store / alloy wheel stire - they will check on size and will provide on spot the best fit lug nuts for same

Hope should help.


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Glad that you replied sir and hope everything is well at your end.

Could you please tell me the size of the lug nuts for Nexon alloys wheels?

As there are many lug nuts available in the market with different sizes.

As always thank you.

Highest regard,
Dalip
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Regret delay as seems the reply was skipped in due to oversight

See, Nexon XZ Plus comes with many enhancements which are not there in XM and even by spending in high sum - you wont feel and experience the factory fit finish. Like
> Grand Central Console with Front Armrest & Sliding Tambour Door - which what enhances in Nexon looks to premium level
> Rear Defogger cant be installed in
> Rear Seat cant be make 60:40 split
> Height Adjustable Driver Seat which what makes a difference if have other members of family who will drive in too and have height difference

Other than it
> Rear AC Vent
> Factory Fitted Harman Touchscreen which has its own premium experience fit and finish, warranty
> Plus yes projectors, alloys, camera visibility in touchscreen, several smart warning indicators, front fog light, shark finn antenna

My recommendation is
> Nexon XM is seeking value and feel like upgrading some features without going overboard
> Nexon XZ Plus for fully loaded luxury experience and yes available with factory fitted warranty

Remember - doing too much modification to car in form of accessories or after-market is not good as you will never enjoy the finesse as otherwise in factory fitment. If you have budget - best to go for Nexon XZ Plus - am sure will experience better value and comfort with peace of mind ownership.
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Thank you again sir for the timely response.

As a buyer point of view, do you think it is worth spending approx 2 lakhs rupees more on XZ plus variant of nexon over XM variant

Or

It is better to go for XM and modified it according to the budget and requirements.


Please do consider while answering that there are some features of XZ plus which cannot be retro fit in XM.

Thanks!

Highest regards,
Dalip Thawani
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@ Dalip

Lug Nuts
Sorry theres no specific brand of lug nuts known
Best is to
> Go with with OEM Original one
> Check out with Amazon reviews

Anti Theft Car Accessories
A Detailed post on - Anti Theft Car Accessories

Anti theft alarm with Mobile Notification
Unfortunately none with mobile notification known.
However, Nexon higher variants do comes with Anti theft system where on detection of any unauthorized access through any other key other than original key, the Body Control Modulle trigger continuous horn sound.

Dont think that this feature is in Nexon XM (still better to cross check with service center / dealer showroom)
If you seek such a feature - may check for Nippon, Autocop anti theft alarm kit where it trigger an alarm on finding an intrusion

Hope it help !!
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Sorry I meant September 4th
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Sir , I am having a doubt as after seeing your videos I decided to buy Nexon XM and I booked that on Aug 30. And on 4th Aug I came to know about new launch of Nexon XM S.
Now I am confused that should I go for XMS aur should I go with prebooked Xm only. ( Xm delivery is supposed to be on 24-27th of Sept) . Actually I just wanted touchscreen with steering mounted controls and reverse parking camera in Xm. But as it's not available I don't want to extend my budget to xz .
I just wanted to know ,buying xm wl be better or I should go for XMS
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Thank you once again admin!

The list of accessories seems suitable for my needs and you also talked about lug nuts

Could you please advice-
1.Best anti theft alloy wheel lug nuts available in the market with brand name.

2.Best and latest anti theft car accessories with brand name.

3. Any anti theft alarm with motion sensor and other features available in the market that gives mobile notification.

Highest regards,
Dalip
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Hi

Theres almost Rs 2 Lakh Price difference in between Nexon XM and XZ Plus Model

Some things can go for addition are:-
> DVR Recorder (Essentially dashcam) - Tata Genuine cost rs 5500 or from aftermarket Transcend one as best in class costing rs 10000
> Tyre Pressure Monitoring - basis brand chosen, can choose Sensairy one costing rs 6500
> IRVM Camera Display - Rs 7000
> Fog Light with DRL - Rs 14000
> Roof Rail - Rs 6500
> Center Seat Armrest - estimated rs 3000 to 4000
> Music System - Sony XAV Ax5000 6.95 Inch costing around Rs 20000 or Ax8000 as 8.95 Inch Tablet Size Touchscreen costing around rs 28000 in after-market
> Premium Floor Mats - RS 2500 to 3000
> Contrast Roof Wrap - Rs 10000

rest details are - Tata Nexon Accessories

May check out !!
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Thank you once again for the wonderful advice and your suggestions helped me a lot to make my mind. And after considering all your suggestions, I'm planning for XM variant of nexon.

Could you please advice what are the accessories (interior & exterior) i should go for to make it like XZ plus model of nexon and to bring premium feel to the car considering the dull interiors of Nexon XM.

Thanks again for your time and guidance.

Take care of yourself.
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@ Dalip

In R16 195/60, 195mm is tyre profile, while RIM Size is 16 Inch in lower variants
In Top of line R16 215/60, R215 again is what tyre profile, while RIM Size is 16 Inch

Now, if you replace in Alloy Wheels with Steel Wheel having same 16 Inch - well as what said is Wheel Offset of Steel Wheel is what designed for R195 Tyre, (see attached for how wheel offset determine difference)

but difference is marginal at just under 1 Inch spread across, both as can be checked in Tyre Calculator Section

So it really wont make any impact and given tyre size can easily fit in 16 Inch RIM as given by company,
In terms of negatives - no wont have any difference except that alloy looks as referred been
> More Sturdy
> Better in Aesthetics
> Marginally 1.5% to 2% better mileage

rest car suspension is what designed basis R16 215/60 tyres and no other impact of replacing alloys with steel rim
Hope should help !!
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Hello Mr.Thawani & Admin, First of all would like to thank Mr.Thawani for once in a blue moon questions & appreciate Admin for wonderful suggestions but I have few questions too regarding the situation such as for.eg 1)Mr.Thawani gets a customer for his alloys giving better deal than dealer he is buying from but he owns the base model XE which has steel wheels so when he puts up diamond cut alloy wheels won't he need a disc brake system too for fluid and whatever that is which is there under bonnet connected to wheels (the whole disc brake parts apart from alloys n tyres) which will not be present in XE model...what can be done or is advisable in this situation? 2) From XE owner point of few questions : Is doing all retro fitting than buying the top model is a good option as you save almost 50~60% with good standard aftermarket accessories If yes I wii buy XE model and purchase alloys from Mr.Thawani.
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Thank you sir for such an elaborative answer.
And considering all the above points if i get a decent value for alloys my next concern would be-
As tires for alloys are R16 215 and steel rims are for R16 195 tires like in lower variants of Nexon(XM) . Will it create any problem in terms of mileage, durability and safety if i use 215 tires on 195 rims?
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Greetings !!

I dont think that this would be a fair call as you will lose a lot
Reason - You will need both Steel RIM and Wheel cover - which they will charge in almost Rs 2500 to 3000 per Wheel
and in buyback will likely depreciate Alloy Wheels at considerable price.

Like Nexon Diamond Cut Alloy Wheel almost cost Rs 9500 to 10,000 for each Alloy
In event of replacing same they will likely depreciate considerably to extent of 40% to 50% even - means at best will get in rs 5000 to 6000 per Alloy and hub. Considering replacement you will just get benefit at best of Rs 10,000 to 12,000 in overall replacement and will lose on aesthetic styling element.

So, options if you keen for replacement
Instead of showroom

I suggest to connect with Nexon Owner Group on Social Media - Facebook as there are many owners and also try to join in local whatsapp group and try to strike a deal from someone whos interested in buying brand new alloys by picking say at price of Rs 8000 or so from showroom instead of exchanging it to them

But is Replacement recommended for Nexon Alloy Wheels
Nop wont recommend
> Alloy wheels are relative more Stylish and you will lose in styling aura
> Lighter in Weight , but stronger in strength than steel Wheels. Light Weight tends to add on 1.5% to 2% enhancement in fuel efficiency
> Alloys been better heat conductive than Steel wheels, can give better braking ability with enhanced life of brake disc and brake pads.

How much this replacement of alloys will going to effect the resale value in future ?
It will do impact in to almost rs 15K to 20K if you consider in replacement after 5 to 7 years or so
For someone whos buying top model will definite depreciate value on car without Alloy

Anything can be done instead of replacing alloys
Any specific reason for avoiding anti theft nuts ? You will get too kit to loosen the nut as and when required.
Unfortunately - there's no separate add on cover on loss of specific parts like Tyres, Alloy Wheels with most of the insurance companies
I suggest to use Anti Theft Alloy Wheel Nuts only. Cost around rs 2500 to 3000 approx from Manufacturer end, after -market can get in even 40% to 50% of price.

Its a recommended way for peace of mind protection

So, overall recommendation
> Avoid replacement of Alloy wheel with steel wheel and use Nut lock for safety

If you still plan to sell due to any reason
> Avoid exchanging with dealer
> Rather find a direct buyer through social media grou and sell at 15% to 20% lower price than actual price

Hope should help !!
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