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Hi,

Me and my brother-in-law are planning to buy 2 new car in July- oct 2020.

For Car Type 1 our selection is Honda Amaze Vx CVT Petrol, BS6. Price 9 - 9.75 lack.
For Car Type 2 our selection is Ford Eco Sport, Petrol, Automatic, BS6 Price 12 - 12.75 lack.

We need MyCarhelpline guidance to do proper selection as our knowledge is limited.

Car type 1 : Petrol, Automatic, Suv or hatchback or sedan, First preference to fully automatic, Second preference to AMT. Budget 9-10 lack on road price.

Car Type 2: Petrol, Automatic, Suv or hatchback or sedan,First preference to fully automatic, Second preference to AMT. Budget 12-12.75 lack on road price.

Regards,
Teajs
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Greetings !!

Preference 1
With a descent budget of 9 Lakh+, an AMT car does not make much sense when there are proper Automatic car available
Am AMT Car essentially is a Manual Transmission one, but has AMT Device which
> Press Clutch (so although no Manual clutch pedal for driver, but has clutch which is pressed and released by this AMT Device)
> AMT Through Actuator do gear shift changes

To be in simple words - they are Automated Manual which are make shift to give a feel of Automatic cars

AMT or CVT: Although AMT is lot improved in last 6 years and even cars with Electric actuator available but there is definite an inherent pause / jerk feel in AMT cars when car actuator changes gear.

Been the budget on way and the fact remains CVT feels lot more refined and responsive with smooth linear jerk free pickup, any AMT unit cant match the smoothness, refinement of a proper CVT.

However, every transmission has its own pros and cons and CVT is best if you love relaxed drive, if you revv hard on accelerator you wont enjoy it as a lag will appear and noise level will increase

Automatic Car to Buy in 9 Lakh to 10 Lakh
https://www.mycarhelpline.com/images/newcar/Honda-Amaze-2018.jpg
Now from car per se in budget of 9 Lakh to 10 Lakh - Amaze Vx CVT is an excellent choice with fully loaded Top Model available with
> 5 Year Warranty
> Prepaid Maintenance Pack lower than Jazz, as service interval is once a year
> Ideal for city drive as car has soft suspension
> Lower Turning Radius
> 4 Star Safety Rated Car in Global NCAP
> Good Space Management
> Available with Paddle shifters to slight enjoy fun to drive by slotting in Sports Mode

But care for a
> More Sturdy design
> Fully loaded features
and a car with slight stiffer suspension for better planted on road then Honda Jazz Vx CVT is an excellent contender.

The car is scheduled to get BS6 Upgrade in June 2020 and will come with LED Headlights, LED Fog Lights with some minor cosmetic updates in interiors with digipad 2.0 Touchscreen with Android AUto

Jazz feels
> More sturdy,
> Better tuned suspension,
> More premium against Amaze
> Is Wider too in Cabin
> Interior Aesthetics feels more premium
but has downside of bi-annual service interval so far
You can check on differences in Service Cost in this section

Car Type 2: Petrol, Automatic, Suv or hatchback or sedan in 12 Lakh to 12.75 Lakh On Road with Ecosport AT in contention
https://www.mycarhelpline.com/images/newcar/Ford-Ecosport.jpg
Although Ford Ecosport Automatic has
> Fully Loaded Safety with ESP, 6 Airbags, Sturdy Build
> Naturally aspirated Petrol Engine for relaxed drive and has paddle shifts
> Reasonable Good Handling
> Looks like Proper SUV on Road
> Lower Service Cost

But
> Rear Seat Legroom is very average
> Mileage is relative lower and 9 to 10 Kmpl in city would be a reasonable expectation
> Suspension feels slight on firm side
> Features removed in recent times. Like - Tyre Pressure Monitoring system features removed. You will still miss in Ford Signature sync3 Touchscreen with Live navigation (which is restricted only in top end S Manual)

So depends on preference on what you seek for :- If need to give
> highest weightage to Safety Element
> Build Quality
> Sturdy Design
> Good Handling
> Proper Automatic with paddle shifter
> SUV Feel

But if you seek
> More fun to drive as against Safety aspect : Venue Sx Plus DCT
> If you seek quick, fast gear shift response with Turbo Petrol - Venue Sx Plus DCT
> If you seek Better Infotainment with Connected car solution - Venue sx Plus DCT

So depends on preference, if your priorities are met with respect to Active and Passive safety, Handling, SUV Kind road presence and care less for rear seat legroom, Mileage and drive in relaxed way then Ecosport Automaic can be a reasonable good car for need

Hope should help !!


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Hi Mycarhelpline Team,

Thanks for your Replay.

1) For Type 1: 9-10 lacks

Jazz:
When honda Jazz BS6 will lunch? When Honda Jazz Fit will be launch in India in 2020?
Honda Jazz has A- Pillar visibility issue while driving is it true?
Between Honda Jazz and Amaze which is more fun to drive car in Indian Roads.?

Any Other option:?
Can we consider Polo Petrol GT for this option? What is pros and cons of it?

2) For Type 2: 12-13 lacks
Venue: Venue Sx DCT (1.0 Ltr Petrol automatic) has transmission heating problem. is it true? Engine is noisy can hear sound inside car. does it true? What is Hyundai Venue DCT mileage?
Source:


Eco-sport: Low mileage, Torque converter is not smooth.
Between Venue and EcoSport which car has larger/wider rear seat space?
Between Venue and EcoSport which is more fun to drive car in Indian Roads.?

Any other option suggestion.?
Can we consider renault duster CVT for this option.

I have read in many online article and videos for Indian roads Japanese CVT gear box are good option compare to others AT gear box. Does it true or this is old people thought?

For Indian roads Petrol 1.2l CVT is enough power full or it should required 1.5l CVT.

Regards,
Tejas
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Hello,

Pl find response
1) For Type 1: 9-10 lacks

Honda Jazz Launch
Honda Cars India all set to introduce in 4 Models
> All New Generation City
> WRV Facelift
> Jazz BS6
> Civic Diesel

Somehow due to restricted production, market sentiments the launch is deferred to July 2020 to August 2020 when all these 4 models would be available in market

While its confirmed that New Gen City, Civic Diesel and WRV all set for launch in early to Mid July 2020. Jazz may take some more days to be introduced in end July to early August 2020 in Indian Market.

A Pillar Visibility Issue in Jazz
A Pillar are slight thicker (if considering against Amaze), but trust no as such issue
Its just to get a feel and be adjusted by driving couple of times.

Between Honda Jazz and Amaze which is more fun to drive car in Indian Roads.?
Well Amaze weighs less, lower turning radius and thus may feel slight more peppier but
> Amaze suspension is on soft side
> Steering feels rather vague at higher speed
Its Jazz which is better in mid range as against Amaze

2) For Type 2: 12-13 lacks
DCT Cars can be prone to heating problem if
> Car driven too much in bumper to bumper traffic by pressing brakes
> Holding on hill using mildily pressing accelerator pedal
> Abusing Car by sudden acceleration too often

The same explained in this post on DCT Overheating and how to resolve by adjusting driving style
Refer - DCT Overheating

Between Venue and EcoSport which car has larger/wider rear seat space?
Well both cars comes with limited rear seat legroom and in width too are best for 2 Adults and 1 Kid
But Ingress and Egress is relative better in Ecosport

Between Venue and EcoSport which is more fun to drive car in Indian Roads.?
If Automatic - Venue been Turbo charged makes a difference on mid range.
Also, steering dynamics are better sorted in the car as against other Hyundai Cars, Suspension is also tuned on firm side (Ecosport suspension is even firmer) but from fun to drive Venue feels fast and more fun

Can we consider renault duster CVT for this option.
This car is been discontinued in Indian Market

I have read in many online article and videos for Indian roads Japanese CVT gear box are good option compare to others AT gear box. Does it true or this is old people thought?
Well CVT is for relaxed drive and if compared to 4 speed Torque converter feels better as no jerk
But care for slight enthu drive - CVT has high rubberband effect and not the best for requirement

For Indian roads Petrol 1.2l CVT is enough power full or it should required 1.5l CVT.
Bigger the engine - better it is in response and power
Honda 1.5 CVT as what seen in City is more responsive as against what seen in Jazz CVT having 1.2 Litre Engine
Pulling Power, Responsiveness and Mid range all what changes in
Infact if you even check Brezza 4 Speed - despite of old school 4 speed - this SUV still feels better as against what seen in CVT in 1.2 Engine
Means 1.5 Litre Engine with higher power makes a difference

Hope it helps in clearing doubts !!
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Hi Thanks for your reply.

Between amaze and jazz which car has better rear seat comfort? what is the major difference?

Which parameter we should consider for car color selection in indian road condition, maintenance, look, Visibility? White or Light r Dark for amaze, jazz car.? Which color has advantage in which situation?

White color:
Light color: Lunar silver
Dark color: Modern steel metallic, Golden brown metallic

Regards,
Tejas


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Hi Thanks for your replay.

Between amaze and jazz which car has better rear seat comfort? what is the difference?

Regards,
Tejas
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Hi,

I need your help for color selection as I am planning to purchase my first car jazz or amaze.

Which color is more suitable for Indian weather and road condition?

White:
Light: lunar silver metallic
Dark: golden brown metallic, modern still metallic

My selection is Modern steel metallic or golden brown metallic. Is it good choice?

Any suggestions for color selection.


Regards,
Tejas






Regards,
Tejas Patel
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Hello,

Although both cars lacks 60:40 Split Rear Seat and lacks adjustable head restraints, but
> Jazz has better legroom and Headroom as against Amaze
> Although Width similar but Jazz has marginal Better Shoulder room space as against Amaze
> Window lines are even bigger to give more space in Jazz

Overall Jazz feels better in rear seat as against Amaze
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Hello,

For color section, pl refer - Best Color for Car

Should help !!
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Hi,

I have done test drive of Amaze petrol CVT. My family do not like it bcz size, build quality, as per price.

Jazz is not available for test drive.

What is the new option if we want to buy automatic car having size of mid hatchback example i10 nios AMT, polo under 9 lacks?

Can you please suggest petrol automatic in mid size hatchback and hatchback?

Regards,
Tejas
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Hello,

Automatic Hatchback in around 9 Lakh

Polo Automatic : Well at Ex-showroom of Rs 9.12 Lakh and the fact that
> rear seat space is compact
> Seating is relative low
> Despite spending in close to 10 Lakh - No Rear View Camera, No Center Seat Armrest on Rear, No Projectors, No LED Headlights

However, if seek for
> Sturdy Build
> Top Notch Suspension
> Handling
> Turbo Petrol Engine
> 6 Speed Torque converter
a car for 2 adults and possibly average build on rear

Maruti Baleno CVT
Alternative choice for
> Family Car
> Spacious
> CVT has lowest rubber band effect and actually Baleno CVT is fun
> Fuel Efficient
> Good drive, Features

Downside is
> Build and Safety may need a lot to work on to benchmark as set by competition manufacturers

May check out on what you seek
If can wait then Jazz CVT would likely be available in 6 to 8 weels
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